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Washington State/Milwaukee 1909 Bridge over Columbia River near Beverly, WA

(Bridge Hunter 1, Bridge Hunter 2, Satellite)

This bridge became abandoned when Milwaukee Road abandoned its westward extension. Washingthon State got ownership because of back taxes. Some of the Milwaukee right-of-way has been converted to the John Wayne Pioneer Trail, but the bridge is currently closed. How can a bridge be so bad that it can't even support people and horses? In 2018, the Washington Trust for Historic Preservation is working on getting an engineering study done to determine how to rehabilitate it for trail use. [Bridge Hunter 2]

Photo from Bridge Hunter 2
Photo is one of  14 from Hoffman's Gallery of Misadventure (source)
A photo with Boxcab Electrics pulling a train

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Milwaukee's Rockton to Oglesby Branch

This map shows that Milwaukee Road's first route in Illinois entered the state at the middle of the north boundary and headed to the river towns on the west side.

Bill Molony posted, cropped

Bill Molony posted, cropped

A comment on Bill's posting explains:
Matt McClure The MILW line built west from Racine is the oldest MR line. It was built as a serious competitor to Galena & Chicago Union Railroad to Turner Junction. The thought was Racine could be a serious threat to Chicago in the 1840s.

It wasn't until 1872 that Milwaukee built their route from Chicago to meet their original Illinois route at Kittredge in 1880. In 1881, it built south from Rockton to Rockford and acquired trackage rights on the CB&Q/Chicago & Iowa to Davis Junction to tap the industry in Rockford and to connect their two Illinois routes.

Later they used the CB&Q route through Rochelle, IL to Stewart Junction and then built their own track down to Ladd. They added a branch to Cherry to access a coal mine owned by a subsidiary. [Harold J. Krewer The infamous mine at Cherry, IL (where 259 miners died in a 1909 fire) was on a short branch of the Milwaukee out of Ladd, IL and was in fact owned by its subsidiary, the St. Paul Coal Co. Every pound of coal out of that hole went into a Milwaukee Road locomotive.] Then they joined the NYC/II&I at Seatonville to share their bridge across the Illinois River to Granville where they built a branch to the east to access a coal mine at Oglesby.

I had originally thought Milwaukee built to Oglesby to tap the cement manufacturing industry of Buzzi Unicem and Lehigh Portland. But another comment on Bill's posting indicated their target was another coal mine.
Stuart B. Slaymaker Lots of coal on them thar branches. Oglesby, and especially the south end of the C.T.H. & S.E...

As the map indicates, the Milwaukee Road not only used the II&I between Seatonville and Granville, it also used its branches to DePue and McNabb.

The output of the coal mines in Cherry and Oglesby were not able to meet Milwaukee's demand for coal during WWI. So in 1921 they leased the Chicago, Terre Haute & South Eastern for 999 years to gain access to some of the many coal mines in southern Indiana. [DeBruler]



According to my 2005 SPV Map, the northern part between Rockton and Flagg Center (connection to BNSF mainline to St. Paul and the Northwest Pacific) was operated by Illinois, Chicago & Eastern (ICE). Canadian Pacific now owns the ICE assets. Everything south of Steward Junction has been abandoned.



I now need to update the following postings (that I can remember) to replace text with a link to this posting. After I fix these postings (don't hold your breath), this is a list of towns on this route for which I have more information.
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CP/ICE/Milw 2004 Scherzer Bridge over Black River in La Crosse, WI

(Bridge HunterJohn A. Weeks III, no John Marvig, 3D Satellite)

While watching the video below, I could not identify what type of drawbridge was over the Black River, even when I looked at a 3D Satellite image. It seemed to be a Scherzer rolling lift bridge, but I could not clearly identify the quarter-round rolling members, even in the photos on Bridge Hunter. But John's photo below clearly shows a rolling member. I didn't know they still built this design.

The predecessor bridge was a swing bridge. So the US Coast Guard has been successful in getting a swing bridge removed from the Mississippi River. But John explains that this channel is used by recreational boats. Commercial (barge) traffic uses the west channel. When I looked at the satellite image, it appeared the Black River was just another channel of the Mississippi River. John explains "the Black River was once a separate river in this area, but it was captured a few miles up river by the Mississippi a few centuries ago." [Weeks-#7]

John A. Weeks III

(new window) They get to the bridge at about 4:06. It sounds like the private car has a flat wheel.


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CP/ICE/Milw 1901 Bridge over Mississippi at LaCrescent, MN

(Bridge Hunter, Historic Bridges, John A. Weeks IIIJohn Marvig3D Satellite)

Dennis Weber posted
A Look @ Freight Cars on CP's Mississippi River Bridge LaCrescent,Mn. 9-2017 CP Train 471.
Originally, it was steam powered. It was converted to electricity in 1952. It is staffed 24/7. [Historic Bridges] It was rebuilt in 1928. The US Coast Guard condemned it in 1998 and ordered that the swing span be replaced with a lift span. So far the replacement has been just talk. This is one of four bridges that island-hops across the Mississippi and Black Rivers between La Crosse, WI and LaCrescent, MN. "La Crosse is one of three places that the Amtrak Empire Builder passenger train crosses the Mississippi River, with the other two being Hastings, MN, and Little Falls, MN." [Weeks]
I'm not exactly sure where this bridge falls for priority. It's a critical line for oil and freight to and from Chicago. However, it depends on who's paying for the replacement (and it probably won't be the railroad). If it's paid for by the coast guard (who is the only ones who want it replaced, due to the navigation channel), it may be a while. It's behind Clinton, Iowa and likely Dubque, Iowa for replacement due to narrow navigation channels. However, the railroad intends to double track the bridges here and further up the river at Hastings within the next few decades, so it may happen then. [Bridge Hunter, Posted September 23, 2015, by John Marvig]

John A. Weeks III

HeavyMovableStructures, Photo 3 in Home Page scroll
[The photo is not identified, but it sure looks like this bridge. Unfortunately, the link I was after, http://www.heavymovablestructures.org/assets/technical_papers/Alteration-of-the-Canadian-Pacific-Railway-Drawbridge.pdf, is broke. Poking around the site quickly comes to "Under Construction" text.]
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(new window) They get to the bridge at about 4:06. It sounds like the private car has a flat wheel.


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